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Wayne Hewitt
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10/14/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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I seem to have an inordinate amount of trouble grabbing the bottom two corners to pull them on a diagonal. For whatever reason, the top two corners are not as bad but they seem to me to be overly sensitive compared to most other apps I use. I don't know if this is just my perception or if it may be a windows setting I am unaware of.

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Andy Schmidt
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10/14/2014
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Dear Wayne,
Do I understand correctly, that you are not maximzing the StudioLine application, but are running it as a smaller Window? And, you are trying to resize the StudioLine application window using the standard Windows handles in the four corners of the application border (see red circles in Screen Shot)?
Or how/where are you trying to resize the "Image Archive Window"?



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Wayne Hewitt
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10/14/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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Andy
Yes, I am trying to use the windows handles because on some smaller monitors the maximize is too large and I want to leave a small ribbon of the desktop visible for other stuff I want to bring up. I could likely [Alt][Tab] to them but I seem to be a mouser, so to speak.

On a/the previous version I could not maximize as the Image Archive would not recognize the boundaries of the Task Bar. I do not recall having trouble grabbing the handles at that time.
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Wayne Hewitt wrote:
trying to use the windows handles.

Okay - the application border is managed by Windows. If your mouse touches those (wide) margins - your mouse pointer should turn into either horizontal or vertical double arrows (depending if you are on the top/bottom vs. left/right margin). Near the 4 corners, they should turn into a diagonal double-arrow. The specific appearance is controlled by your Windows "theme".
So, the first two questions are:
  • As your mouse reaches the four corners, does the mouse pointer correctly and consistently toggle to the diagonal arrows in all four corners - or is THAT your problem?
  • What version of Windows are we talking about?
  • Does it make a difference if the bottom margin of StudioLine is a bigger distance from the inner edge of the task bar?
Wayne Hewitt wrote:
the previous version I could not maximize as the Image Archive would not recognize the boundaries of the Task Bar.

I have no problem with my task bar, that's located at the BOTTOM. As long as you are MAXIMIZED, StudioLine will not overlay the task bar on the bottom.
  • If you still have problems, how is your task bar positioned?
Wayne Hewitt wrote:
seem to me to be overly sensitive compared to most other apps I use

I know it's difficult, but try to explain more in detail what you mean by "overly sensitive" - does the mouse pointer flicker back and forth between a regular pointer and the diagonal arrow? Or is the problem that the redrawing of the StudioLine screen (to reposition its various content items) seems to take long or is "jerky"? Or... ?
It might be helpful to learn more about your hardware, such a processor speed, graphics adapter, color depth. Since you mentioned a "smaller monitor", I wonder how recent or old that particular hardware might be. A slow processor with a slow graphics adapter combined with high color depth and a graphics intensive application can result in a mix that requires some compromising by the user.
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Andy
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Wayne Hewitt
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10/14/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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Andy
I'll try to clarify. The smaller monitor is my laptop which is a two year old or so Dell XPS 17". I am using Win 7 64 Pro. It is normally configured to also drive two 24" monitors, one landscape (in the center and my main ) and one portrait. I can list some technical data if need be but I don’t expect that to be an issue.

When using three monitors I maximize SL on the center 24" landscape one and it respects the Task Bar which is vertical on the left of that monitor.

When I use the laptop only I keep the Task Bar on its left side, move SL to the upper left corner and then try to use its lower right corner handle to extend it within 1/4" - 3/8" of the right edge and bottom edge of the screen. The pointer does not consistently toggle to diagonal . More often than not I end up doing that in two moves, one vertical down and one horizontal to the right. It seems that I have to hit the diagonal corner handle within a very few pixels, perhaps within 1/32" of the corner. It seems a slightly bigger target on the top handles. This is the same on the laptop monitor and on the 24" monitors and at various distances from the Task Bar.
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I do not experience this on other apps so I am wondering if there is some handle definition that is overly tight. There are apps where putting the mouse pointer within 1/8" of the corner will engage the handle.

This really isn't debilitating - I just wanted to report it in case it was something easy to adjust at some point.
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Wayne Hewitt
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10/14/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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Intel Core i5 CPU M460, 2.53 GHz, 8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GT 435M
Intel HD Graphics True Color (32 bit)
LG W2442PA 1920x1080
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Andy Schmidt
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10/15/2014
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Wayne Hewitt wrote:
...try to use its lower right corner handle to extend it.

Let me test a theory with you. The ONE difference I found was the "Size Grip" control (see screen shot) that applications have in their status bar.

If you open Notepad, Paint, IE, etc, then you'll notice a triangle in the bottom right corner, whenever the application is not maximized. That entire rectangular area can then be clicked and dragged to resize the application window.
If you start one of those applications then you should notice that the LEFT bottom corner, however, does NOT have the size grip (and neither the ones on the top). Again only the right bottom corner offers that control. So, if my theory is right and you were to try to resize a Notepad window and compare it with StudioLine, you might find both applications actually behave identical in the three other corners - and ONLY the bottom right corner would be different?
While that does not address your issue - it at least pin it down to the specific reason, because so far I haven't been able to explain your original observation: "trouble grabbing the bottom two corners to pull them on a diagonal. For whatever reason, the top two corners are not as bad but they seem to me to be overly sensitive compared to most other apps I use."






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Wayne Hewitt
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10/15/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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I think you are on the right track. Open the SL Assistant as if importing pics and it has the triangle in the lower right. If you move the pointer up to the upper right corner and very carefully follow the border around the corner you will see that the diagonal pointer is activated through a reasonable range (although on my monitor the activation range is wider than it is tall). If you then move to the lower right corner of the main window and do this experiment you will see (at least on my monitor) that the activation range is miniscule in comparison.
Perhaps it is related to a border width that exists but may not be visible.
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Andy Schmidt
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10/15/2014
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Wayne Hewitt wrote:
Open the SL Assistant as if importing pics and it has the triangle in the lower right. If you move the pointer up to the upper right corner and very carefully follow the border around the corner you will see that the diagonal pointer is activated through a reasonable range (although on my monitor the activation range is wider than it is tall).

Actually, I really was hoping you could open Notepad, Paint, Internet Explorer or similar apps, then do a actual a one-on-one comparison of any one of THOSE applications against StudioLine - how does the same TOP left corner compare? how does the same bottom LEFT corner compare?
Do THESE behave identical? Is the ONLY difference the bottom right corner - for which there would be an explanation...
(I do understand that some of StudioLine's internal windows might have different border widths and do have the "Size Grip" - and at some point it will be helpful to learn whether those Windows are resized more easily as they might serve as "models" - or not.)


As a side-note... This has been very educational. I've been testing with the standard Microsoft Windows applets to establish a "base line". Sure, they all do behave the same from app to app, but I never realized how different the handling of the 4 corners within the SAME application window is:
In the top two corners, if I follow on the margin from the center of the windows towards either corner, I only get a diagonal arrow once my mouse pointer precisely touches the "curvy" portion of the rounded corners - which is a tiny area. If I dare go "inside" the app window (e.g., the title bar), the double-arrows are instantly lost.
In contrast, if I move to the bottom and start from the center of the bottom margin and move left or right on the margin, my diagonal arrow appears much earlier before I reach the rounded corner. AND, if I then move "inside" the windows, the diagonal arrow STAYS for a bit. So it is active in a much larger space than for the top two corners. Finally, the bottom right corner then has an added rectangular space where the diagonal arrow is active, whenever the app has a Size Grip control.
So in MY testing of Windows applets, the bottom right with the Size Grip control is the easiest to reach, the bottom left is average, both top corners are the most finicky. I had hoped that you would confirm the same on yours so that we would know my tests actually relate to yours.
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Wayne Hewitt
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10/15/2014
Wayne Hewitt
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I tried Wordpad and I would now describe the diagonal initiation point as essentially at the beginning of the curve in all four corners if you are following the border up or down, and much more lenient on all four corners if you are following the border left or right. The active initiation point is a rectangle nominally twice as wide as it is tall on the upper right, perhaps one by one on both left corners(may be 2x1) and twice as tall as it is wide on the lower right. This not the same as you described but we do agree that the corners are by no means equal in active handle areas.

I tried the same file with Notepad. It does not have the dotted triangle in the lower left. All four corners hot the active area more or less at the curve when moving the mouse up or down and earlier when moving left and right. All four active areas seem to be nominal 2x1 rectangles.

I enlarged the doc to about 24"x24" and saw no noticeable difference in the active area.

Remember; Microsoft, as was Satan, was sent to try us and both are doing a fine job!
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